What are your thoughts on new WWE Champion JBL?

[Diamond Dog]

Love him or loathe him, JBL is The new WWE Champion. What are your thoughts on this & JBL in general?
:scratch:

[Thriller]

I won't even begin to ramble on about JBL...but to answer your question I loathe him.

[Superior 1]

Hate it.

Bradshaw was pretty good as one of the Acolytes. Key word PRETTY good. As in "not World Champion material." Not only that, wins it on a stupid angle. I wasn't huge on Eddie as WWE Champion, but it's getting worse. Cena and Gunn and guys are better than Bradshaw. Not to mention the irritating "I'm better than everyone else 'cuz I'm rich" gimmick he's got going. Real snore- fest. The racist, money- worshipping jerk thing does nothing to endear him to this WWE fan. I'd rather have Mordecai as the Champion. But as fate would have it, he prefers to target the "lie, cheat and steal" over Bradshaw's greed and vanity.

My only hope is that his reign is a short one. Kurt Angle could make Bradshaw tap even WITH the broken leg, and there are better competitors in the SmackDown! locker room that have never had the faintest of a decent push. I like Sean O' Haire and he's not even in the WWE anymore.

JBL is as lame as when Hardcore Holly had the WWE Championship feud with Brock Lesnar. Eddie Guerrero versus JBL was lame enough with Judgement Day. God only knows why they decided to do it again.

Here's an idea: Undertaker v. Bradshaw. 'Taker would kill him. And I'd enjoy it. Bradshaw? WWE Champion? Give me a break.

I rest my case.

[GTank]

I have said it many times...I think that he should be circumsized with a butter knife. That WWE title is not his. HE CAN'T WRESTLE VINCE!!! This is me after finding out he won the title: "Uh? :scratch: " It makes no sense. The reason people boo him is the same reason RoH booed Jeff Hardy.

[Aries]

Jeff made a nazi sign too? Strange... OR is JBL on drugs?

JBL having the title will serve good for the Marks but to be honest he isnt fully ready to hold the title. I'd give it to 'Taker/Booker for a while, unless the Eddie/JBL feud continues.

[TheMidnightRambler]

I'm going to reserve judgement and see where this goes. I'm no big fan of Bradshaw but i think he is reasonably entertaining, a lot more than some i could mention. I think we need to be realistic about this and not bash him because it's popular to do so. A lot of people say that he can't wrestle and that he can't cut a good enough promo. I disagree fundamentally with anybody who says JBL is no good on the mic. The fact of the matter is that he is a good talker, otherwise he would never have been allowed to host a radio show or appear on CNBC as an analyst, let alone be given so much promo time. How many times do you see RVD do show opening 15 minute promo? Never is the answer. Ok, RVD is a better wrestler than JBL but the people who promote the likes of RVD in spite of his flaws and bash JBL because of them are being very hypocritical. Question.....who is the biggest star and probably greatest champion ever?..answer...Hulk Hogan.....can anyone remember him doing spinning heel kicks, moonsaults and 35 minute lucha libre matches?..didn't think so. Anyone who believes Bradshaw can't wrestle must have only been watching WWE for five minutes or never seen any other federation. Anyone who has will tell you tha Bradshaw, whilst not setting the world on fire, is decent enough to hold his own in the top league.

Secondly and most importantly, i believe Bradshaw is a transitional champion. He is being used to get the gold from one face to another without either losing support. I think the next champ will probably be John Cena. Back in 1991, the WWF had to use Sgt Slaughter to get the gold back on Hogan, because they couldn't risk a Hogan- Warrior feud. What if it backfired? instead of two hot babyfaces, they would only have one and another with damaged credibility. Sure they got some cheap heat with the Iraq thing and the anti-america values ( starting to see parallels? ) but it was just a Hogan vehicle. This is the same thing. Wait for JBL to defend once against Eddie then drop it to Cena or somebody similar.

[Gamblor]

People act like Justin Bradshaw Layfield is the worst wrestler in the business when I have news for you, John Cena is not to much better if at all. They both wrestle the same style, just one has a better finisher and the crowd likes him because he can rap. Eddy Guerrero was not lighting the world on fire during his title reign and JBL won the best way he could, he got lucky. JBL has struck a nerve with wrestling fans and I don't know why. No one in this chat saw him goose step, no one was around during the days of Nazi Germany, and no one would have cared if someone else had did it (and they have) or you weren't told to care. Bradshaw plays the texas tycoon very well, he struck a nerve with the latino fan base the the Guerrero fan base. He had an entertaining and violent match against Eddy and then has another decent match where he pulled out the victory. Those of you complaining, I imagine, saw Great American Bash; Billy Gunn v. Sazuki and Holly v. Mordecai and to an extent the Dudley's v. Undertaker could be considered painfull to watch but JBL was able to put on a decent show. Sure Bradshaw is not Lou Theuz; but he is not Bastian Booger either and in a business where Kane, Vince McMahon, David Arquette, Diesel and Sycho Sid have all held championship gold Smackdown could do worse. Lets spare the cross for a few weeks to see where the stories are headed and see how effective JBL and the Smackdown brand are. Because, no one has really done well on Smackdown so may as well give JBL a shot.

[hbk172004]

JBL SUCKS HE should not be a wwe champ. If he should be a champ he should go for the womens title that fag.




thoughts are my thoughts JBL SUCKS

[Eddie Freeze]

Here's an idea: Undertaker v. Bradshaw. 'Taker would kill him. And I'd enjoy it. Bradshaw? WWE Champion? Give me a break.

I rest my case.

Thats what I was going to say...I think JBL sucks too, but I get it, theyre setting up for a JBL/Undertaker fued. Every week, when SD goes off the air, Taker does something to JBL, and I hope Taker has ended this thing with Heyman and the Dudleys, and Taker will finally have his chance getting the WWE title. He can FINALLY bury JBL once and for all.

[HBKshawn]

I laughed when JBL became champion. Smackdown has been bad recently but now it's terrible. I can't believe they even let JBL be champ after the Germany incident. I would love Eddie as champion again, but I want some different wrestlers to feud with JBL as champion. In my opinion people that should feud with him are John Cena, the Undertaker, Booker T, RVD, and if there is ever a match with more then 2 people when I think Eddie should get another chance.

[Taker12-1]

JBL, got a free ride if you ask me.
He did not even have matches with Big Show, Booker, John Cena, Undertaker or Rob Van Dam. JBL is gonna lose that title soon.
I can't believe WWE gave him a free push.
Hey do you any of you guys live new york?,
JBL lives in or near Central Park, I have been their twice before JBL lived.

[Captain]

As I have said on my forum and on the 1Wrestling.com Feedback section, I don't mind JBL's title reign at all, mainly because after 9 years in WWE, he has found his gimmick and it works very well for him. I will say that he was pushed into WWE title contention way too fast, as I thought that him being a main eventer for a good year would eventually bring up his status and then make him WWE/World Champion. Realistically though, look at who else could have taken the title from Eddie. Booker T? Been there, not gonna happen. RVD? Mr. Attitude? Nope. John Cena or Rene Dupree? Not in the WWE title league right now. So Vince capitalized on the publicity that WWE & JBL got from the Germany BS, and it's probably a temporary solution just to seal the "publicity is good" statements.

I don't like the fact that JBL beat Eddie Guerrero for the WWE title. When Eddie won the title, I wouldn't have expected JBL of all people to win the belt from him. I think it was too soon. JBL was a tag wrestler that got a new outlook on life & his career, and then all of a sudden he's a main eventer. It happened too fast.

I am happy for JBL because he has busted his butt to be where he is now. 9 years of scraping the bottom of the barrel, and now he's THE MAN on SmackDown, for now. I fully expect Eddie to get back the title, maybe even before Summerslam. JBL is not a racist, and he's not a bad guy at all, but he does lash out at internet fans because, let's face it, most of them are know it all wannabees who think that they can do a better job as a writer for WWE, and yet how many of them do you think apply for the position?

It angers me when longtime WWE fans say that they will stop watching the shows now, simply because they don't agree with what WWE is doing. I don't always agree with what Vince decides to do, but you won't ever....EVER see me not watch ANY program, let alone something I've been in to for 25 years, just because I don't agree with their antics. People need to remember that it's not as easy as it looks from any of the jobs within WWE. Being a booker/writer is NOT easy, and capturing the fans interest is getting harder by the month.

I don't think Vince made JBL the champion for ratings. That's a crock. Nobody can save the ratings right now, and nobody probably ever will, unless a miracle happens some way.

So all in all, I like JBL the man, the character, and the WWE champion.

[EC Dubster]

I’m glad JBL is the new WWE champion, because the WWE title has been way to predicable for to long. Who knows we might get to see more underdogs like RVD, Rey Mysterio and Rena Dupree with the title soon. Before you moan can you tell me one wrestler who has improved more since WM20 than JBL? JBL is not perfect but he is over and deserves a reward for the way CNBC treated him.

[TheMidnightRambler]

After all this time, finally Gamblor and i agree on something! Also, Captain pretty much summed up what i believe is the correct way to look at JBL. Give him a chance people, after all if a heel champion is provoking this much debate and angst he must be doing something right. By the way, when " the clothesline from hell" is sold properly, i don't think many people have a more impressive finisher. That must be worth some brownie points for JBL's wrestling ability.

[Thriller]

I agree with Gamblor, alike TheMidnightRambler, for the first time. Although I don't like him personally, he does well as his character and all. But his finisher isn't very impressive, I suggest you take a look at AJ Styles' Styles Clash, Jerry Lynn's Cradle Piledriver, or Low-Ki Ki Krusher '99.

[TheMidnightRambler]

I've seen all of those moves and they are impressive but the point i was trying to make is that the "clothesline from hell" looks very realistic and painful, whereas a lot of others just seem too technical. Think of the FU...Cena basically drops the opponent off his shoulder onto the mat, which should be no more effective than a backdrop. I remember seeing a few wrestlers who have have done a 360 degree spin after being hit with TCFH and it looked VERY painful and sensational. Again, i think it proves JBL is good at getting the best from very little, which is the mark of most of the great " superstars".

[EC Dubster]

JBL the 21st century heel?

Ever since Bradshaw was repackaged as JBL, the so-called smart marks have been on his back bashing him for simply doing his job (being a heel). Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t we supposed to hate the heels and want them to lose? In recent years some of the heels have become more popular than the faces for example Kurt Angle, RVD, and even Triple H.

In the 80’s when Hulkamania was running wild, Hogan was a real American hero, and anybody from another country was considered to be evil and a threat to the American way of life. The WWF played on the xenophobic public by creating characters like Nikolai Volkoff (USSR), The Iron Sheik (Iran), Rowdy Piper (Scotland), Yokozuna (Japan) and even SGT Slaughter betrayed American and joined Iraq.

However the wrestling audience grew up and not being American was no longer enough to get heat from the fans. So a new type of heel was required this came in the form of a Ric Flair tribute act called Shawn Michael’s, he reinvented the heel personae single-handedly with his revolutionary mic skills and using ring psychology to maximum effect. The original HBK heel was so good it set the mould for the heel of the 90’s, which almost every heel was based upon. You do get exceptions to the rule like Kurt Angle but the majority of heels have undoubtedly been based upon HBK.

Then came the Internet and the birth of the smart mark, they wouldn’t judge a wrestler on his race, size or popularity with the casual fans. Instead he was judged on his ability in the ring, personality and charisma. It was no longer accepterbal to push untalented wrestlers like the Ultimate Warrior, Hulk Hogan, Sid, or King Kong Bundy.

Now the WWE have had tried something new by going old school with JBL and have created a 21st century heel. Be honest what do most smart marks hate? An untalented big man being pushed ahead of a hard working talented wrestler. What else do they hate? Dealing with sensitive and politically incorrect issues like immigration and racism. All of which the JBL character is based upon. CNBC have even fired the guy for playing a role. How stupid is that? That’s like a movie company not wanting to hire Edward Norton because he played a neo-Nazi n the film American history X. Sooner or later people will have to accept JBL is going to be around the mainevent scene on Smackdown for a long time to come. I have accepted it and so should you.

[Cartman]

As I have said on my forum and on the 1Wrestling.com Feedback section, I don't mind JBL's title reign at all, mainly because after 9 years in WWE, he has found his gimmick and it works very well for him. I will say that he was pushed into WWE title contention way too fast, as I thought that him being a main eventer for a good year would eventually bring up his status and then make him WWE/World Champion. Realistically though, look at who else could have taken the title from Eddie. Booker T? Been there, not gonna happen. RVD? Mr. Attitude? Nope. John Cena or Rene Dupree? Not in the WWE title league right now. So Vince capitalized on the publicity that WWE & JBL got from the Germany BS, and it's probably a temporary solution just to seal the "publicity is good" statements.

I don't like the fact that JBL beat Eddie Guerrero for the WWE title. When Eddie won the title, I wouldn't have expected JBL of all people to win the belt from him. I think it was too soon. JBL was a tag wrestler that got a new outlook on life & his career, and then all of a sudden he's a main eventer. It happened too fast.

I am happy for JBL because he has busted his butt to be where he is now. 9 years of scraping the bottom of the barrel, and now he's THE MAN on SmackDown, for now. I fully expect Eddie to get back the title, maybe even before Summerslam. JBL is not a racist, and he's not a bad guy at all, but he does lash out at internet fans because, let's face it, most of them are know it all wannabees who think that they can do a better job as a writer for WWE, and yet how many of them do you think apply for the position?

It angers me when longtime WWE fans say that they will stop watching the shows now, simply because they don't agree with what WWE is doing. I don't always agree with what Vince decides to do, but you won't ever....EVER see me not watch ANY program, let alone something I've been in to for 25 years, just because I don't agree with their antics. People need to remember that it's not as easy as it looks from any of the jobs within WWE. Being a booker/writer is NOT easy, and capturing the fans interest is getting harder by the month.

I don't think Vince made JBL the champion for ratings. That's a crock. Nobody can save the ratings right now, and nobody probably ever will, unless a miracle happens some way.

So all in all, I like JBL the man, the character, and the WWE champion.


Great rebuddle bro..


finally a great write up about the man everyone loves to hate right..

I myself feel he doesn't deserve it, but i know how Vince thinks and knew he was gonna put the title on JBL.

Let's just see where this goes from here..

Taker feud? Continued Eddie Feud? will WWE raise someone like Booker, RVD, Cena or even bring Angle back in to take the belt from him?

All valid questions, and like it or not (I don't) JBL is the Smackdown Champ...

We that don't like this have to ride out this terrible storm, while his beloved fans revel in his reign.

(100 Points to awarded for this post!)

-Cartman!

[Diamond Dog]

Thanx for the 100 points mate! Erm.. by the way, did somebody call JBL Justin Bradshaw Layfield? Anyway never mind, i'd just like to agree with whoever said that his clothesline from hell is a really effective finisher. I think it is too & along with his "big boot" which is also a pretty devastating move, JBL has got some truly powerful weapons at his disposal which should help him defend his title for a while at least. Whether thats a good thing or not i aint too sure.

[Cartman]

the 100 donated points were for 'Captain' bro.. not you.. sorry...

-Cartman!

[KurtAngleHBK]

Here's what I think:
It sucks. He's a bad wrestler the only reason JBL's getting a title shot is cause he's getting old.

[Eddie Freeze]

Here's what I think:
It sucks. He's a bad wrestler the only reason JBL's getting a title shot is cause he's getting old.

Yeah, Its like Jeff Jarrett on TNA, its senority. Been in the business for long time, payed his due, getting his shot before he retires.

[Crazy_Cambob]

You know, I cheered JBL on against Eddie, but now that he's got it I'm like, what the hell now? Let's pretend for a minute wrestling is real, it makes things funner anyway. Ok, so lets line up all the contenders on SmackDown who deserve or could possibly get a shot at JBL's title, Eddie, Undertaker, Big Show, maybe Kurt when he comes back, Bookman, RVD, maybe John Cena? I really can't imagine him coming out on top too often with any of these guys in a fair match. Now, I think I understand why the WWE pushed him like this. They needed another A-list title contender, which JBL isn't but they were probably like what the hell, he deserves it, good mic skills....and we're really desperate on SmackDown. So they dust him off, take away his tag partner and beer and give him a limo, a ten gallon hat and a title belt. I realize Smackdown is more for the stars of tommorrow, and Raw is more for the veterans or in some cases, guys who should be dead by now *cough* Ric Flair. and thats probably why I like Raw a little more. Because I'm more used to and familiar with they're superstars, but no offense to JBL because I probably like him more than alot of you,but you know you're shows running into the ground when the crown jewel of your show is Bradshaw. Then again, buddy you could be right. He may just be sitting on it to keep it warm until a more worthy contender sends him home crying in his cowboy hat and beltless.

[Aries]

No, the reason he's champ is 'cause Vince loves Big Men, Bradshaw has only been in WWE since '97 at the latest, and Jeff Jarrett deserved his title shot anyways! JBL has good mic skills? WFT! He just goes on about something no-one cares about and is just non-meaningful. He repeats what he's saying, whereas with Eddie you can tell where he's going with it and its more entertaining, and its not cause he's heel cause Big Show is also entertaining.

[Wild Thing]

I think that JBL as the champion is a unpspeakably bad, he is a terrible wrestler and by no means deserves to be the WWE Champion. I beleive the WWE made him the champion because they wanted A 'Big Guy' as the champ as they're hasn't been one for a while. I think and hope the JBL will not be the Champ for a long period of time though, people will get bored of him-not to say that they already are!

[sankey]

Brock Lesnar would be laughing his head off if he was still on smackdown.Paul London is better in my book.

[Hookz]

Well i dunno what to say i get this confused look like wtf....was the writers thinking. This man is done in my book yeah sure hes hardcore but thats it. His character sucks JBL i mean come on its like there making him like Teb Diabase{if i spelled that wrong i'm sorry not a english major} With a combination of Big Show lol. Well at any rate i feel the writers messed up unless Eddie gets the title back and Mordika goes after eddie or JBL is treatened by The Undertaker. I think JBL wont have a long reign so i don't care.....lol


-hit meh hooka

[cjcool23]

As much as I hate the new Bradshaw, I have 2 give him his props. He is still one of the best superstars on smackdown. even though he won because eddie pushed him, I cant recall a time that eddie beat bradshaw without cheating?

[EC Dubster]

its like there making him like Teb Diabase With a combination of Big Show lol.

That’s sums up JBL perfectly. Although it seems he might be turning face, this week on Smackdown he was shaking hands with the fans and he said he would kiss a few baby’s as long as weren’t smelly baby’s. Maybe his face turn will set up a match with the Undertaker or Luther Reigns.

[TheMidnightRambler]

What's wrong with having a Dibiase-style character doing well in the WWE?. Personally, i always felt Dibiase should have been given a title run in the late 1980's, he was simply the best heel out there at the time and he should have gotten the win over Savage at WMIV, which he would have done but for the Honky Tonk Man's politics. If anybody is not old enough to remember The Million Dollar Man in his prime, i suggest you seek out a few tapes of him in action, he was a great heel who could really go in the ring. This is another reason why i am warming to JBL, he is portraying the simplest of gimmicks ( ie we all dislike people boasting about money and sucess ) and doing it very well. It's also good for long time fans like me who get a sweet sense of nostalgia when he appears, simply because he reminds me of when wrestling was simple. Too much of this is bad because then it becomes a love-in like Hogan had, but a little is just fine. Also, perversely, i'd quite like to see Sensational Sherrie by JBL's side, just to make me feel like i was 11 again!!

[EC Dubster]

i'd quite like to see Sensational Sherrie by JBL's side, just to make me feel like i was 11 again!!

As the Coach would say I don’t think Sensational Queen Sherrie is WWE diva material, although it would be funny to see JBL with her. I would also like to see JBL use some more of the Million $ Man’s moves such as the gut wrench suplex, the million $ dream and the Million $ fist drop.

[kitty25]

I hate JBL. He was only cool when he was in the APA with Farooq. Eddie should still hold the title. But if Eddie could not have the title I would give it to someone like Taker or Cena. But that's just me=)

[eddie_undertaker]

i live 2 appartments away from JBL's Appartment, i have seen hookers leaving his apartment, i hate him

[Glovebox]

2 words for that last statement.. b s